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[Denaes]

Computer configuration:
eMule Plus version:	1.2
Using proxy:	No
Firewall:	Yes
CPU:	Intel 2.2ghz
Memory:	2gb
Operating System:	Windows 2000 Professional
Updated drivers for network and video:	Don't know

1. TCP Not working and I'm getting a low ranking or whatever.

I have a Netgear Wireless Router (WGR614) that I'm using wired and I know how to do Port Forwarding on my Router just fine.

Now with eMule, there was an option to test that I always bomb. No clue why unless my provider is randomly blocking ports... but I set it up with a port that I know works (ie, I just tested it) and it still bombs on that stupid test.

I even followed the instructions over at www.portforwarding.com and still no dice.

Now I'll give you that you can't test it with eMule+ (that I can see) so I don't know for sure that it's bombing with this software as well. So I could be getting low ranking notices for something else.

2. No Previews

I recall eMule had an option to optimize downloads to try and grab the first/last part so you can do previews more likely. I don't see any options in eMule+ after looking like 4 times through all the settings that would do this.

Needless to say, every time I try to preview a download, it just doesn't happen. It's greyed out.

Anything I can do to fix this?

3. Not Sharing (or hiding) Downloads/Downloaded Files

This is absolutely vital.

I don't want to be sharing something I'm in the middle of downloading (with no preview no less!) or something that has completed downloading until I've approved it and verified it.

Call me paranoid, but after downloading some really mislabeled pedo stuff, I shudder to think what would happen if it just sat there on my computer shared for a week or something.

That paranoia aside, with other P2P programs, it's absolutely vital to verify a download prior to sharing it. It's this AutoShare type features that gets so many misnamed, broken or Verification files loose on these p2p systems.

I mean my rep is at stake. If I'm sharing a file called "College kid pukes in beer and drinks it", then it better damned well be a movie of a drunk dude puking in his bear and not some 40yr old ho giving head or animated ponies saving the world.

Any help on these issues would be greatly appreciated

[FreeFlow]

1. TCP Not working and I'm getting a low ranking or whatever.

I have a Netgear Wireless Router (WGR614) that I'm using wired and I know how to do Port Forwarding on my Router just fine.

Now with eMule, there was an option to test that I always bomb. No clue why unless my provider is randomly blocking ports...  but I set it up with a port that I know works (ie, I just tested it) and it still bombs on that stupid test.

I even followed the instructions over at www.portforwarding.com and still no dice.

Now I'll give you that you can't test it with eMule+ (that I can see) so I don't know for sure that it's bombing with this software as well. So I could be getting low ranking notices for something else.

assuming that you are the expert you say , NO OFFENCE INTENDED -- I've always assumed I know nothing til I get things working -- have you checked the box in Preferences / Connection --- OPEN CLIENTPORTS IN INTERNAL WINXP FIREWALL

2. No Previews

I recall eMule had an option to optimize downloads to try and grab the first/last part so you can do previews more likely. I don't see any options in eMule+ after looking like 4 times through all the settings that would do this.

Needless to say, every time I try to preview a download, it just doesn't happen. It's greyed out.

Anything I can do to fix this?

RIGHT CLICK on a file you are downloading / want to download in TRANSFERS. Look for ADVANCED in the pop up menu and select Get First/last chunks for Preview.

3. Not Sharing (or hiding) Downloads/Downloaded Files

This is absolutely vital.

I don't want to be sharing something I'm in the middle of downloading (with no preview no less!) or something that has completed downloading until I've approved it and verified it.

Call me paranoid, but after downloading some really mislabeled pedo stuff, I shudder to think what would happen if it just sat there on my computer shared for a week or something.

That paranoia aside, with other P2P programs, it's absolutely vital to verify a download prior to sharing it. It's this AutoShare type features that gets so many misnamed, broken or Verification files loose on these p2p systems.

I mean my rep is at stake. If I'm sharing a file called "College kid pukes in beer and drinks it", then it better damned well be a movie of a drunk dude puking in his bear and not some 40yr old ho giving head or animated ponies saving the world.

Any help on these issues would be greatly appreciated

I understand your concern and agree with you wholeheartedly but unless you do the preview and verify there is nothing else that can be done about this ... once you have downloaded a minimum amount (not sure of the amount but I think its 1 whole block 9MB) you strat to share that chunk and any others that you have downloaded regarding that download.
IF you have reason to believe that a file is misrepresesnted and requires reporting Right click on the file in TRANSFER or Shared Files (Including "ALL KNOWN SHARED FILES" --- I had deleted a file that I wanted to report but it was still registered in Shared files / show all known files for me to grab and make my report) look for web services and select Donkey fakes - Check file or Donkey Fake - Report File .. maybe we will be able to clean up a few downloads so that it's safe for the kids to make sharing without getting perverted content!

My apologies if the wording isn't 100% but if you look you'll find the menu's

Replying to TIME WASTER DOWNLOADS
Also you can do it at hand... http://www.donkeyfakes.net/report.php?

But it's much better to do in the WebService way

This post has been edited by FreeFlow: Jun 29 2006, 07:15

[ronnielim]

i am having problems here is singapore too...

my upload speed is terrible... 0.xx or 0
my DL is around 10k compare to last time...i am getting 200k
ask around my friends all having the same problem, it is suspect that our ISP have find a way to block emule...

any help to trick the ISP??

[Denaes]

[quote=FreeFlow,Jun 29 2006, 03:12]
[quote=Denaes,Jun 29 2006, 06:12]1. TCP Not working and I'm getting a low ranking or whatever.

I have a Netgear Wireless Router (WGR614) that I'm using wired and I know how to do Port Forwarding on my Router just fine.

Now with eMule, there was an option to test that I always bomb. No clue why unless my provider is randomly blocking ports... but I set it up with a port that I know works (ie, I just tested it) and it still bombs on that stupid test.

I even followed the instructions over at www.portforwarding.com and still no dice.

Now I'll give you that you can't test it with eMule+ (that I can see) so I don't know for sure that it's bombing with this software as well. So I could be getting low ranking notices for something else.

[/quote]

assuming that you are the expert you say , NO OFFENCE INTENDED -- I've always assumed I know nothing til I get things working -- have you checked the box in Preferences / Connection --- OPEN CLIENTPORTS IN INTERNAL WINXP FIREWALL[/quote]

Never said I was an expert. I just said I know how to forward ports on my router and have done so successfully with quite a few applications and then listed the reasons why everything checked out on my side, but still wasn't working.

So ruling out error on my side with the actual port forwarding, it's a setting/bug with eMule/eMule+ or some totally random fluke in all my configurations and installed software that allows port forwarding to work with other software and just not eMule.

Unfortunately (well, fortunately really) I don't have XP or XP Firewall or any software firewall, so that option is perminently checked and greyed out.

On that same screen there is also a profile dropdown (generically set to Cable right now), Transfer Rates (all greyed out except for the Limitless download checkbox, which is checked), Queue Size which (set to 3000), Max Connections (set to 20), Show overhead bandwidth (checked) and Enable LanCast (unchecked)

[quote=FreeFlow,Jun 29 2006, 03:12]

RIGHT CLICK on a file you are downloading / want to download in TRANSFERS. Look for ADVANCED in the pop up menu and select Get First/last chunks for Preview.
[/quote]

Fair enough, didn't check there. I thought there would be a global setting so you can always preview things... but this is good enough to get some previews. Thanks






[quote=FreeFlow,Jun 29 2006, 03:12]
[quote=Denaes,Jun 29 2006, 06:12]3. Not Sharing (or hiding) Downloads/Downloaded Files

This is absolutely vital.

I don't want to be sharing something I'm in the middle of downloading (with no preview no less!) or something that has completed downloading until I've approved it and verified it.

Call me paranoid, but after downloading some really mislabeled pedo stuff, I shudder to think what would happen if it just sat there on my computer shared for a week or something.

That paranoia aside, with other P2P programs, it's absolutely vital to verify a download prior to sharing it. It's this AutoShare type features that gets so many misnamed, broken or Verification files loose on these p2p systems.

I mean my rep is at stake. If I'm sharing a file called "College kid pukes in beer and drinks it", then it better damned well be a movie of a drunk dude puking in his bear and not some 40yr old ho giving head or animated ponies saving the world.

Any help on these issues would be greatly appreciated

[/quote]

I understand your concern and agree with you wholeheartedly but unless you do the preview and verify there is nothing else that can be done about this ... once you have downloaded a minimum amount (not sure of the amount but I think its 1 whole block 9MB) you strat to share that chunk and any others that you have downloaded regarding that download. [/quit]

So unless you sit with the app and keep checking on it, you won't know what you're sharing?

Checking on it isn't even that accurate because you start sharing chunks way before you can preview it sometimes.

While I think reporting a fake is nice, the priority should be to stop sharing the fake or to rename it and share the properly named file (if it's something you wish to share).

Even a way to set the Permission of unknown files to Hidden would be decent.

At least the way the software works explains why there are so many fakes/mislabeled files out there.

[Vladimir (SV)]

Never said I was an expert. I just said I know how to forward ports on my router and have done so successfully with quite a few applications and then listed the reasons why everything checked out on my side, but still wasn't working.

So ruling out error on my side with the actual port forwarding, it's a setting/bug with eMule/eMule+ or some totally random fluke in all my configurations and installed software that allows port forwarding to work with other software and just not eMule.

Unfortunately (well, fortunately really) I don't have XP or XP Firewall or any software firewall, so that option is perminently checked and greyed out.

On that same screen there is also a profile dropdown (generically set to Cable right now), Transfer Rates (all greyed out except for the Limitless download checkbox, which is checked), Queue Size which (set to 3000), Max Connections (set to 20), Show overhead bandwidth (checked) and Enable LanCast (unchecked)

Please retry all steps of this guide: http://www.portforward.com/english/routers.../eMule_Plus.htm

We as human can make mistakes, probably you forgot an step on that guide, otherwise there's not anything wrong with eMule Plus, but with your ISP. Any chance your ISP is blocking P2P activitie?, can you ask them?.

Can you try this test to make sure ports open?
http://www.pcflank.com/scanner_s1.htm
Your eMule Plus has to be running.

RIGHT CLICK on a file you are downloading / want to download in TRANSFERS. Look for ADVANCED in the pop up menu and select Get First/last chunks for Preview.

Fair enough, didn't check there. I thought there would be a global setting so you can always preview things... but this is good enough to get some previews. Thanks

There's was a disscusion a months ago about this that I can't find, but in short, automatic "get First/last chunks for Preview" was rejected because it hurt the network, that contribute to bad spreaded files, and no all wants to previews theirs files, anyway is high recommended to get your links in eD2K release sites.

3. Not Sharing (or hiding) Downloads/Downloaded Files

This is absolutely vital.

I don't want to be sharing something I'm in the middle of downloading (with no preview no less!) or something that has completed downloading until I've approved it and verified it.

Call me paranoid, but after downloading some really mislabeled pedo stuff, I shudder to think what would happen if it just sat there on my computer shared for a week or something.

That paranoia aside, with other P2P programs, it's absolutely vital to verify a download prior to sharing it. It's this AutoShare type features that gets so many misnamed, broken or Verification files loose on these p2p systems.

I mean my rep is at stake. If I'm sharing a file called "College kid pukes in beer and drinks it", then it better damned well be a movie of a drunk dude puking in his bear and not some 40yr old ho giving head or animated ponies saving the world.

Any help on these issues would be greatly appreciated

I understand your concern and agree with you wholeheartedly but unless you do the preview and verify there is nothing else that can be done about this ... once you have downloaded a minimum amount (not sure of the amount but I think its 1 whole block 9MB) you strat to share that chunk and any others that you have downloaded regarding that download. [/quit]

So unless you sit with the app and keep checking on it, you won't know what you're sharing?

Checking on it isn't even that accurate because you start sharing chunks way before you can preview it sometimes.

While I think reporting a fake is nice, the priority should be to stop sharing the fake or to rename it and share the properly named file (if it's something you wish to share).

Even a way to set the Permission of unknown files to Hidden would be decent.

At least the way the software works explains why there are so many fakes/mislabeled files out there.

Seems you're lucky or Devs hear/read you, because AFAIK there's current work on setting default permisions for downloading files, not sure if it will avoid sharing at all the files you mark as hide, but expect it in any future version.

[FreeFlow]

Even a way to set the Permission of unknown files to Hidden would be decent.

Go into shared files
right click on the file you don't want to share with everyone and select from 3 categories, Public, Friends & Hidden.
I assume that these selections work .. but also, if you think its a fake .. mark it up .. it will show when people are doing the download by bringing up a little red bug sign by the downloading folder. SORRY - Not Folder I meant File


btw I went through teh FAQ's many many times & asked for advice on the form before I started to realise the potential of e-mule Plus .. and I am still learning.
Didn't mean Expert "Expert" when I said "Expert" but anyone who understands the basics of what's going on is RELATIVELY an expert in the eyes of those who don't even know what a file extension is or how to recognise it!
I won't put money on it but I reckon 99.9% your problem like everybody elses wil turn out to be some configuration problem .. and if you're not using XP .. what ???

This post has been edited by FreeFlow: Jun 30 2006, 18:21

[Aw3]

Seems you're lucky or Devs hear/read you, because AFAIK there's current work on setting default permisions for downloading files, not sure if it will avoid sharing at all the files you mark as hide, but expect it in any future version.

This is different and has nothing to do with this.

[Denaes]

Really I appreciate help. I didn't ditch out so much as I'm a developer and had to upgrade from 2000 to XP for some development tools I'm using.

Please retry all steps of this guide: http://www.portforward.com/english/routers.../eMule_Plus.htm

Done again about 20 more times since then.

We as human can make mistakes, probably you forgot an step on that guide, otherwise there's not anything wrong with eMule Plus, but with your ISP. Any chance your ISP is blocking P2P activitie?, can you ask them?.

Yes, anyone can make a mistake. I double checked it. It's only 3 things to actually configure:

1. make up a name for the port forward (portforwarding suggests eMule1/eMule2)
2. put port in both port ranges (start and end)
3. Add the LAN IP number (just last digit).

This is all I need to forward a port with any video game or other P2P. So I know my ISP isn't blocking P2P's, though maybe they know how to block only eMule specifically and leave all the rest alone?

If there is another step not mentioned in the users guide and portforwarding.com, then I'm not doing that. Otherwise I'm hitting all the steps.

Can you try this test to make sure ports open?
http://www.pcflank.com/scanner_s1.htm
Your eMule Plus has to be running.

Yes, I did the test and I get a perfect result. As expected the port is listed as "Stealthed" which is what you want your ports to be. They only need to be "open" if someone doesn't know the port and they want to sniff around for it. Since I gave eMule my port, "Stealthed" should work.

"Stealthed" is standard behavior in the router I have and isn't mentioned as something I would need to change by PortForwarding.com or any eMule documentation I've seen. It works fine with every other application I need to forward a port to.

[Vladimir (SV)]

So, you can use with no problems another P2P?, maybe Emule Original?, others MODs?

Just to be sure, consider that eMule Plus generate random TCP & UDP ports at first launch (or when it need to create Preferences.ini), check in Preferences -> Connection -> Connection for yours.

Btw, you had set your IP as static right?, otherwise this will not function:

3. Add the LAN IP number (just last digit).

P.S. As you had upgraded to Windows XP, make sure you had patched TCPIP.sys in case of Service Pack 2 is installed, and generally you will need to configure Window's Firewall aswell.

This post has been edited by Vladimir (SV): Jul 21 2006, 13:31

[Denaes]

I have the same problem with eMule and eMulePlus.

No problems with DC++, Kazaa or Limewire in the past. DC++ is the only of the crew that I still use and my port forwarding works fine with that.

IP set to static? Where would this be? In the OS or the router or the app?

My public IP address is semi-perminent. It sticks with me about 3-30 days and changes. This is something my provider does.

My LAN IP normally doesn't change. I'm hooked up to a wire so it's static now. But if I go WiFi and another computer is WiFi sometimes things switch around and I have to go back and change my port forwarding.

XP Firewall is off. No need for it as my router covers the same bases without being software. If I connected directly to the internet I'm sure I'd turn it on. There is a button in eMule/eMule Plus that opens up the ports automatically right?

I'm going to check out this TCPIP.sys thing. I haven't done any special registry tweaks yet. Fresh install with SP2 and all my development tools.

thanks for the advice on this

[WiZaRd]

Hi there... what exactly did you enter into the router config? What's your static IP?

I know several bad router softwares which do nonsense, e.g. if you want to forward TCP: 4662-4663 and UDP 4672-4673
It will either forward:
ALL ports to ONE port
TCP only to ONE port
TCP only
UDP only to ONE port
UDP only
nothing (*gg*)

so you might want to try to setup a SINGLE rule for every port to forward.
A portscan while eMule is running should return OPEN not stealthed!

[Vladimir (SV)]

I have the same problem with eMule and eMulePlus.

No problems with DC++, Kazaa or Limewire in the past. DC++ is the only of the crew that I still use and my port forwarding works fine with that.

IP set to static? Where would this be? In the OS or the router or the app?

My public IP address is semi-perminent. It sticks with me about  3-30 days and changes. This is something my provider does.

My LAN IP normally doesn't change. I'm hooked up to a wire so it's static now. But if I go WiFi and another computer is WiFi sometimes things switch around and I have to go back and change my port forwarding.

Wondering how do you follow instructions without now how to set static IP, as it's a must in the configuration.

http://www.portforward.com/networking/staticip.htm

[Denaes]

I have the same problem with eMule and eMulePlus.

No problems with DC++, Kazaa or Limewire in the past. DC++ is the only of the crew that I still use and my port forwarding works fine with that.

IP set to static? Where would this be? In the OS or the router or the app?

My public IP address is semi-perminent. It sticks with me about  3-30 days and changes. This is something my provider does.

My LAN IP normally doesn't change. I'm hooked up to a wire so it's static now. But if I go WiFi and another computer is WiFi sometimes things switch around and I have to go back and change my port forwarding.

Wondering how do you follow instructions without now how to set static IP, as it's a must in the configuration.

http://www.portforward.com/networking/staticip.htm

I wasn't sure what terms you were talking about. I have 2 IP addresses (lan & external) and either could be static.

For example, it matters with DC++ if your external IP is static or not. If your IP isn't static, you have to keep up and change that setting in the DC++ settings panel when it changes.

What that site calls a Static IP isn't what it's actually called in windows so I didn't realize you were asking for static Lan, which is why I asked about both cases. I do this sort of thing at work, but not by that name. I understand what it does and when I saw the help page on it, I knew it doesn't have any effect on the short term port forwarding. When you used that term, I thought you were referring to a specific eMule/P2P term I was unaware of.

What you guys call Static IP is a nice thing to have on tanks (tanks being PCs that aren't going to move around). If you're not going to move your PC, find out what the settings are and make damn well sure they're fixed. In fact many companies insist that you have your own dedicated LAN IP.

If you don't own a tank and have a more portable or laptop system you move between networks, you don't want to set your LAN to a perminant IP address. As you move around networks, your DNS will need to change and quite possibly your LAN IP, or if you connect directly to the internet, your static LAN IP just won't work. Huge hassle.

What they mean by you need to set it is that you need to set your Static (LAN) IP if you want to "Set it and forget it". If you set it to 192.168.69.3, it's always going to be that IP, so you never have to change your Port Forwarding. If you don't set your Static (LAN) IP, and as I said before, your IP changes, then you have to change the port forwarding. If I had 192.168.69.3 and someone else brought a laptop in and bumped me to 192.168.69.4, I would have to update my port forwarding from .3 to .4

No biggie and its by far easier to change the port forwarding on a few ports every month or so than to go into your network adapter settings and talk to network admins to keep on setting Static (LAN) IP's. Far easier to just let windows pick it up and set the port forwarding to that IP.

But in the spirit of anal retentive blind following of directions, I enabled the Static (LAN) IP to 192.168.69.3 (which is what my IP has been for the last 40 some odd days) and suprisingly it still doesn't work. Oh, I also changed the ports to 42001 & 42002 respectively because the instructions say that 10k-50k are better ports for doing p2p things.

On the http://www.pcflank.com/ site, I'm getting stealthed for both ports still.

[Denaes]

Hi there... what exactly did you enter into the router config? What's your static IP?

Assuming you're also referring to the LAN IP, it's 192.168.69.3

I know several bad router softwares which do nonsense, e.g. if you want to forward TCP: 4662-4663 and UDP 4672-4673
It will either forward:
ALL ports to ONE port
TCP only to ONE port
TCP only
UDP only to ONE port
UDP only
nothing (*gg*)

I haven't done ranges yet. Just today I've confirmed 2 other port forwards, so I know they're working just fine. I took out everything and just left one port forward and still nothing. I added back in the 2nd eMule port and another p2p port that I use and the other p2p port is still working fine.

Like I said, I've never had problem forwarding ports which leads me to think it might be something else. I even tested DC++, verfied that the port works, closed the app, opened eMule and set it to that same port I know for 100% fact is being forwarded by the router and I still get an error on an eMule checking site, lowID on eMule and "Stealthed" on that port checking site.

[WiZaRd]

I guess you used "unusal" ports, i.e. not the default ones?
Are you sure DC needs portforwarding?! I doubt that because DC works fine even in highly firewalled environments...

You can try using a free soft, e.g. the webserver from www.aidex.de or an FTP Server Software to really verify everythings running ok...