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Darklord
May 23 2006, 17:28
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Ok, as promissed, im reporting on what i have done.

Here is the code for the prototype i have been working on, to test the concept and check some of the changes needed to implement it.

The code isnt meant to be added, just for checking and commenting; it was done against the code on SourceForge cvs (public, of course).

Following are some notes of implementation, covering what i have found out, done and thought about.
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Darklord
May 23 2006, 21:44
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archive with executable

Edit: this may not have worked, since this version uses logging, and i didnt add the library to the archive. Corrected, follow the instructions on the README.

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QUOTE(Darklord @ May 23 2006, 23:44)

Which source codes is this built on? Maybe you could change the version-string (in upcode.h I think) to reflect which code case you're using and indicate it's an Ajax build..

From my first test, it seems that this Ajax version is MUCH slower than before, but I will make some timings later, as I can be wrong..

Also, I can't use View -> Source.. Has that been disabled?

Issues
  • Are you using old files?
    • QUOTE(Login Page @ Ajax-Template)
      [GZIP Enabled] [[Valid] CSS] [[Valid] HTML]

    • QUOTE(Login Page @ XP-Template)
      [GZIP Enabled] [Valid CSS] [Valid HTML]
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Darklord
May 24 2006, 11:15
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QUOTE(Fuxie - DK @ May 24 2006, 05:28)
QUOTE(Darklord @ May 23 2006, 23:44)

Which source codes is this built on? Maybe you could change the version-string (in upcode.h I think) to reflect which code case you're using and indicate it's an Ajax build..

From my first test, it seems that this Ajax version is MUCH slower than before, but I will make some timings later, as I can be wrong..

On Plus CVS, with the code in the cvs freeze (Sourceforge issue).
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Also, I can't use View -> Source.. Has that been disabled?

No, of course not. (i dont believe that is even possible).
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Issues

  • Are you using old files?

    • QUOTE(Login Page @  Ajax-Template)
      [GZIP Enabled] [[Valid] CSS] [[Valid] HTML]


    • QUOTE(Login Page @ XP-Template)
      [GZIP Enabled] [Valid CSS] [Valid HTML]



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Yes, see above.
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May 25 2006, 15:42
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Nice work, keep going... I would love an AJAX Web interface but don't have the time to do it. smile.gif

Yes, AJAX advantage is the reload of the data only. And I think if we do it right the update time should be reduced 10 times at least. We can also use an update interval of seconds instead of the one of some minutes. Take in account the page is not reloaded but the data updated so you won't see the page changing. biggrin.gif

µTorrent is doing a full AJAX WebServer. Three files are needed (besides images), an HTML with the style weighting 19Kb, a JavaScript file of 50Kb and a CSS of 15Kb. Of course we have a lot of windows they don't have/use but they are doing a really nice work. The are facing some problems with browsers compatibility because of extremely nice features. I think they are overdoing some things. tongue.gif

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Also, I can't use View -> Source.. Has that been disabled?

No, of course not. (i dont believe that is even possible).

There is an extension for Firefox allowing to do that IIRC.
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May 25 2006, 16:23
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QUOTE(DonGato @ May 25 2006, 15:42)
¦Torrent is doing a full AJAX WebServer. Three files are needed (besides images), an HTML with the style weighting 19Kb, a JavaScript file of 50Kb and a CSS of 15Kb. Of course we have a lot of windows they don't have/use but they are doing a really nice work. The are facing some problems with browsers compatibility because of extremely nice features. I think they are overdoing some things. tongue.gif


Nice, thks for the info, gonna check it out.
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QUOTE(Darklord @ May 25 2006, 16:23)
QUOTE(DonGato @ May 25 2006, 15:42)
-Torrent is doing a full AJAX WebServer. Three files are needed (besides images), an HTML with the style weighting 19Kb, a JavaScript file of 50Kb and a CSS of 15Kb. Of course we have a lot of windows they don't have/use but they are doing a really nice work. The are facing some problems with browsers compatibility because of extremely nice features. I think they are overdoing some things. tongue.gif


Nice, thks for the info, gonna check it out.
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Hum, not open source, so cant get directly to the source.

Perhaps a talk to one of the devs to discuss about the development...

We do have advantage over then, since we already have a working webserver, just needs ajustments.

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Darklord   Webserver with Ajax and XML   May 23 2006, 17:28
Darklord   [b]Implementation Notes, part 1[/size] After some...   May 23 2006, 18:03
Darklord   Im suprised noone has commented on this: I thin...   Jun 8 2006, 21:42
Darklord   [b]Implementation Notes, part 2 For now, it still...   May 23 2006, 18:29
Fuxie - DK   When I try to open the zip file (windows integrate...   May 23 2006, 19:09
Darklord   When I try to open the zip file (windows integrate...   May 23 2006, 19:42
Darklord   [b]Implementation Notes, part 3 After the webserv...   May 23 2006, 19:29
Darklord   [b]Implementation Notes, part 4[/size] I "hi...   May 23 2006, 19:40
Darklord   [b]Implementation Notes, part 5[/size] Next Steps...   May 23 2006, 20:10
Darklord   archive with executable Edit: this may not have w...   May 23 2006, 21:44
Fuxie - DK   Which source codes is this built on? Maybe you co...   May 24 2006, 05:28
Darklord   Which source codes is this built on? Maybe you co...   May 24 2006, 11:15
DonGato   Nice work, keep going... I would love an AJAX Web ...   May 25 2006, 15:42
Fuxie - DK   No, of course not. (i dont believe that is even p...   May 25 2006, 16:11
Darklord   Nice, thks for the info, gonna check it out.   May 25 2006, 16:23
Darklord   Nice, thks for the info, gonna check it out. [sn...   May 25 2006, 16:43
Aw3   The thing is that the main slow down is not becaus...   May 26 2006, 03:19
Darklord   The thing is that the main slow down is not becaus...   May 26 2006, 16:19
Darklord   Yes, like i said, the webserver need serious refa...   May 26 2006, 17:02
Beltxo   Hmmm... such an interesting development, implement...   May 23 2006, 22:11
Fuxie - DK   Test run, to check times... Scenario: Login -...   May 24 2006, 06:45
Darklord   The numbers speak for them selves.. Ajax is on...   May 24 2006, 11:35
Fuxie - DK   This is how we've always tested when any speed...   May 24 2006, 12:14
Darklord   This is how we've always tested when any spee...   May 24 2006, 18:59
Darklord   Hum, checking my copy on a P4 1.4GHz with 256 MB R...   May 24 2006, 19:16
muleteer   Fuxie's client is our test bench for WS perfor...   May 24 2006, 19:40
Fuxie - DK   Only for a few weeks more.. I'm getting new ha...   May 25 2006, 06:45
Darklord   Only for a few weeks more.. I'm getting new ha...   May 25 2006, 11:13
Fuxie - DK   Only for a few weeks more.. I'm getting new ha...   May 25 2006, 11:27
Darklord   Now that i have the XML response for the upload q...   May 29 2006, 20:37
Darklord   Ok. So now i know who to call then when its time ...   May 24 2006, 20:14
muleteer   Scary!!! :w00t:   May 25 2006, 08:15
DonGato   I sugest another approach: Don't use template...   May 26 2006, 18:27
Fuxie - DK   Do you mean to build both templates into eMule.exe...   May 26 2006, 18:31
DonGato   No, I mean to remove templates and just have stat...   May 26 2006, 20:23
muleteer   Whichever method we choose, I think we should also...   May 26 2006, 18:36
Darklord   Its good practice to allow usage to non ajax ado...   May 26 2006, 21:39
Aw3   That is also an advantage of the ajax way, since a...   May 27 2006, 01:04
Darklord   That is also an advantage of the ajax way, since a...   May 27 2006, 09:27
Darklord   Added upload list to xml requests, still havent ch...   Jun 5 2006, 21:37
Fuxie - DK   Please explain IN DETAIL what we're supposed t...   Jun 6 2006, 15:49
Darklord   Ok. [*] Download the [url=http://pwp.netcabo.pt/...   Jun 6 2006, 16:42
Fuxie - DK   [snapback]76607[/right][/quote]You're using a...   Jun 6 2006, 17:04
Darklord   Ya, havent updated that one, only the executable...   Jun 6 2006, 17:16
Fuxie - DK   The main problem from my PoV isn't the process...   Jun 6 2006, 17:28
Darklord   Yep, and that is also one of the strong points o...   Jun 6 2006, 18:20
Fuxie - DK   But then,what is there to test for us??   Jun 6 2006, 18:23
Darklord   In particular in your case, two things: [*] Compa...   Jun 6 2006, 18:31
Fuxie - DK   It's, from my PoV, next to impossible to compa...   Jun 6 2006, 18:34
Darklord   True, to some extent, and im working on that (r...   Jun 6 2006, 18:37
Fuxie - DK   First click on "Transfer" after login sh...   Jun 6 2006, 18:52
Darklord   Not necessarily, depends on the approach, if we g...   Jun 6 2006, 18:57
Fuxie - DK   Ofcource, Ajax is all or nothing... But in the co...   Jun 6 2006, 19:02
Darklord   No, thats one of the biggest mistakes that may be...   Jun 6 2006, 19:06
Aw3   How does the server know what to resend? Do you ke...   Jun 8 2006, 11:14
Darklord   How does the server know what to resend? Do you ke...   Jun 8 2006, 11:23
DonGato   Well, the style will be kept but the data will be ...   Jun 7 2006, 22:27
Darklord   For now, im just working on the updating part, and...   Jun 7 2006, 22:43
DonGato   Well, some data we have from other parts of the co...   Jun 8 2006, 05:37
Aw3   How does the server know what to resend? Do you ke...   Jun 8 2006, 23:45
Darklord   Where did i said that? What i did say was, what ...   Jun 9 2006, 00:24
Aw3   It's pretty hard to find the boundary between ...   Jun 9 2006, 01:11
DonGato   So is better to do the localization on every call ...   Jun 9 2006, 04:47
Darklord   Actualy, thats pretty much what JSON is, and its...   Jun 9 2006, 08:08
Darklord   As i have been told i have no suport from the eMul...   Jul 29 2006, 13:16


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