I've RTFM (or more specifically the FAQ) and used the search feature to try to find answers to the following questions to no avail - although of course it's always possible I overlooked the answers. In any case, here are my questions (since I see no prohibition against posing more than one question per topic I will do so unless requested to post them separately by a moderator):
1. Although "Credits" are mentioned frequently in the FAQ, the only information I can find about why they're a good thing is the following:
Full Version: Credits & Fake Reporting
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| Good credit system / leecher ban features This network works by giving you more credit if you share more. Users with leecher mods will be detected by fair clients and banned from downloading from you. Thanks to dynamic banning, you will be able to download from unfair clients, but they can't from you |
Ok, so a positive credit rating is a good thing, but is there any benefit to having say an "excellent" credit rating as opposed to a "mediocre" credit rating? (Note: Since uploading is not controllable by the user, I assume the only way a person could have a zero or negative credit rating is by using a hacked version of eMule that doesn't do uploading. If this is not correct, could someone enlighten me please?)
2. Should a download that's been stalled for an excessive period of time be reported as a fake? Without getting into too many details, there is an ISO image that downloaded wonderfully until it got to 98.6% completion, and then it stopped. Not a single packet has been transferred to me since then (almost two weeks). It's almost like someone's sick idea of a joke; ie, to help sabotage eMule by deleting one or two "parts" (or packets, blocks, or chunks of the source - I'm not sure what the correct nomenclature is here) so that everyone would spend a lot of time downloading the 98.6%, but with full knowledge that no one would ever actually be able to get the whole thing - and of course 98.6% of an ISO image is worthless. Meanwhile, I continue faithfully uploading the 98.6% that I have, but I'm wondering if it wouldn't be better to just delete it altogether and report it as a fake so that others don't waste their time with it. Any advice?
(Sorry if this is a duplicate post, my first attempt didn't show up even after more than an hour, so I'm trying again)
2. Should a download that's been stalled for an excessive period of time be reported as a fake? Without getting into too many details, there is an ISO image that downloaded wonderfully until it got to 98.6% completion, and then it stopped. Not a single packet has been transferred to me since then (almost two weeks). It's almost like someone's sick idea of a joke; ie, to help sabotage eMule by deleting one or two "parts" (or packets, blocks, or chunks of the source - I'm not sure what the correct nomenclature is here) so that everyone would spend a lot of time downloading the 98.6%, but with full knowledge that no one would ever actually be able to get the whole thing - and of course 98.6% of an ISO image is worthless. Meanwhile, I continue faithfully uploading the 98.6% that I have, but I'm wondering if it wouldn't be better to just delete it altogether and report it as a fake so that others don't waste their time with it. Any advice?
(Sorry if this is a duplicate post, my first attempt didn't show up even after more than an hour, so I'm trying again)
When you talk to a remote client your activity is logged, if you have uploaded alot to this client, next time you see him and you want a file, your queue position will be modified, the better your credit rating the faster you will move through a remote clients queue.
In essence, looking at it from a single client perspecitive
Credits are created when you upload more than you download
Credits are consumed when you download more than you upload.
You can look at the credit info when you look at remote client in detail.
In essence, looking at it from a single client perspecitive
Credits are created when you upload more than you download
Credits are consumed when you download more than you upload.
You can look at the credit info when you look at remote client in detail.
Don't report as fake if it isnt fake. Any red bars? If so its probably dead.
moosetea: Ah, thanks for the info, so that's why it's beneficial to improve one's credit rating. I see now. I notice that on one of the clients I'm downloading from I have a Rating of 214 (although I have no idea if I've ever uploaded anything to this particular person, but I guess I must have(?)). I'm pretty sure I've downloaded more that I've uploaded simply because my ADSL download speed is several times faster than my upload speed, but yet I seem to have no problem downloading things.
If I may ask a related question without making a pest of myself: What are typical ranges for credit ratings? What's considered poor, mediocre, good, excellent, etc? Thanks.
reanimated838uk: Ok, I won't report it as fake, but since I'm not able to completely download the thing I have no way of knowing if it's a fake or not. Yes, there is a little tiny sliver of red on the far right end of the download progress status bar (that's the part that's stalled). If in fact it is dead, shouldn't I delete what I've downloaded thus far in order to save others the hassle of downloading 98.6% of it from me, only to find out it's a dud? Maybe there should be a category in addition to "Fakes" called something like "Incomplete," or "Partial", or maybe simply "Dud"?
I'll leave it on my download list for another couple of weeks in case whoever owns the particular client that first advertised it is offline for awhile, but at some point (one month?, two months?, a year?), shouldn't it be removed from the eMule download database listing altogether? Thanks.
If I may ask a related question without making a pest of myself: What are typical ranges for credit ratings? What's considered poor, mediocre, good, excellent, etc? Thanks.
reanimated838uk: Ok, I won't report it as fake, but since I'm not able to completely download the thing I have no way of knowing if it's a fake or not. Yes, there is a little tiny sliver of red on the far right end of the download progress status bar (that's the part that's stalled). If in fact it is dead, shouldn't I delete what I've downloaded thus far in order to save others the hassle of downloading 98.6% of it from me, only to find out it's a dud? Maybe there should be a category in addition to "Fakes" called something like "Incomplete," or "Partial", or maybe simply "Dud"?
I'll leave it on my download list for another couple of weeks in case whoever owns the particular client that first advertised it is offline for awhile, but at some point (one month?, two months?, a year?), shouldn't it be removed from the eMule download database listing altogether? Thanks.
If you upload a lot to a person, the highest credit value you can obtain is 10. And no higher, this is a modifier ratio which gets multiplied to other factors affecting score. if you have not uploaded anything i believe you only get a mod value of 1, which when multiplying by any value is always gonna be the same.
Ocassionally a user will popup with the complete file, so you might want to make sure all a4af sources (in FAQ) are enabled for that file and to keep it for a week or two. If still no luck then you can report it as incomplete... If file is new it may be jumpstarted, so not all chunks are available just yet, so deleting it automatically isnt useful.
Ocassionally a user will popup with the complete file, so you might want to make sure all a4af sources (in FAQ) are enabled for that file and to keep it for a week or two. If still no luck then you can report it as incomplete... If file is new it may be jumpstarted, so not all chunks are available just yet, so deleting it automatically isnt useful.
| QUOTE (RKBA @ Mar 29 2004, 15:04) |
| Yes, there is a little tiny sliver of red on the far right end of the download progress status bar (that's the part that's stalled). If in fact it is dead, shouldn't I delete what I've downloaded thus far in order to save others the hassle of downloading 98.6% of it from me, only to find out it's a dud? Maybe there should be a category in addition to "Fakes" called something like "Incomplete," or "Partial", or maybe simply "Dud"? I'll leave it on my download list for another couple of weeks in case whoever owns the particular client that first advertised it is offline for awhile, but at some point (one month?, two months?, a year?), shouldn't it be removed from the eMule download database listing altogether? Thanks. |
Look at the "last seen complete" colum as this tells you when the file was last seen as complete by your client. It tells you how dead a file is.
Removed from the server database:
When you are downloading a file you publish your shared files hashs to a server for users to search on, even if you only have part of the file. The next version of plus will support a new server feature that sends a complete/incomplete file Flag. When you do a server search in future, it will also tell you how many complete sources are on a particular file.
Removed from your client downloadlist:
Doesnt it depend on the file and how much you want it, any file may come back at any time.
reanimated838uk: Ah, so the "Rating" value I saw on the remote client must refer to something other than the "Credit" rating value that it has on file for me. Maybe I'm dense, but I haven't been able to find much info on "a4af sources", or even a definition of "a4af." I assume it refers to the splitting up of files into 9 MB "chunks" or "sources" for transfer, but it's probably one of those terms whose actual meaning has been lost in the antiquity of time and is only known to the pioneers and long time users of eDonkey/eMule. 
I assume it just means something along the lines of "all the 'chunks' or 'sources' that comprise a particular file."
moosetea: I wondered about that "last seen complete" column when I saw it. I wasn't sure if that meant last seen complete by me or by anyone. Apparently it means that the file has never been seen completed by anyone, so that's a good tip for me to remember; ie, in the future I'll avoid all files that have never been seen anywhere in their completed state. The new sever feature you mention sounds like a great idea. By the way, when I click the "+" next to the file to see all the clients that have been searched for the file, each and every one shows an all green bar except for a blank spot in the exact same position as the chunk I'm missing!
You said: "...,any file may come back at any time." Yes, that's true so I'll keep it on my download list for another week or two in case someone who has the complete file (assuming anyone does) comes online, but after some length of time (a month?) I have to assume it's some sort of prank and try to find some other file that is hopefully equivalent to what I was trying to download.
Thanks guys.
I assume it just means something along the lines of "all the 'chunks' or 'sources' that comprise a particular file."moosetea: I wondered about that "last seen complete" column when I saw it. I wasn't sure if that meant last seen complete by me or by anyone. Apparently it means that the file has never been seen completed by anyone, so that's a good tip for me to remember; ie, in the future I'll avoid all files that have never been seen anywhere in their completed state. The new sever feature you mention sounds like a great idea. By the way, when I click the "+" next to the file to see all the clients that have been searched for the file, each and every one shows an all green bar except for a blank spot in the exact same position as the chunk I'm missing!
You said: "...,any file may come back at any time." Yes, that's true so I'll keep it on my download list for another week or two in case someone who has the complete file (assuming anyone does) comes online, but after some length of time (a month?) I have to assume it's some sort of prank and try to find some other file that is hopefully equivalent to what I was trying to download.
Thanks guys.
If you right click on a user with a down arrow over their client icon, and you check the scores tab, you will see what you have uploaded to and downloaded from the client.
The bottom half applies to you, and what data you have on their machines.
Factors such as whether you are a community user, friend, credit modifier, file priority, filesize, rarity etc affect your rating....rating being a value you are given based on the above. When you multiply the rating by the time youve been waiting in a queue you get your score. So the longer you wait, the more your rating gets multiplied so you end up getting a higher score. The users with the highest scores usually get an upload slot.
a4af has been covered a lot. its in the common questions and answers section. In short, you can only ever download one file at a time from any user. So file 1 and file 2 is what user1 has. You could be downloading file 1 or file 2, but never both at the same time. If your downloading or waiting in queue for one file, the other file is no longer a waitable source. But it does become a a4af source (ask for another file). If you prefer to set the other file with the a4af source to wait and download for, you right click the file, advanced, select a4af. And all sources with a4af will become active, and everywhere else where those users were become a4af sources themselves.
last seen complete is by you. If a user with all parts appears in the list, emule stores when it was completed. Sometimes you may have to enable a4af to make sure a valid source isnt being missed out, and if your lucky, the source complete will appear. But remember sometimes files can take 2-3 days to find a working source, it depends on rarity, so allow some time before removing it.
Usually the progress bar you descripted is common in dead files. But not always.
Not necessarily a prank. Maybe some leecher who decided to unshare asap, but it could be someone who had it complete moved to make space, but was the only source with all parts.
it happens, its best to just find an alternative version or ask for a reshare on a file if you see it in a forum
The bottom half applies to you, and what data you have on their machines.
Factors such as whether you are a community user, friend, credit modifier, file priority, filesize, rarity etc affect your rating....rating being a value you are given based on the above. When you multiply the rating by the time youve been waiting in a queue you get your score. So the longer you wait, the more your rating gets multiplied so you end up getting a higher score. The users with the highest scores usually get an upload slot.
a4af has been covered a lot. its in the common questions and answers section. In short, you can only ever download one file at a time from any user. So file 1 and file 2 is what user1 has. You could be downloading file 1 or file 2, but never both at the same time. If your downloading or waiting in queue for one file, the other file is no longer a waitable source. But it does become a a4af source (ask for another file). If you prefer to set the other file with the a4af source to wait and download for, you right click the file, advanced, select a4af. And all sources with a4af will become active, and everywhere else where those users were become a4af sources themselves.
last seen complete is by you. If a user with all parts appears in the list, emule stores when it was completed. Sometimes you may have to enable a4af to make sure a valid source isnt being missed out, and if your lucky, the source complete will appear. But remember sometimes files can take 2-3 days to find a working source, it depends on rarity, so allow some time before removing it.
Usually the progress bar you descripted is common in dead files. But not always.
Not necessarily a prank. Maybe some leecher who decided to unshare asap, but it could be someone who had it complete moved to make space, but was the only source with all parts.
it happens, its best to just find an alternative version or ask for a reshare on a file if you see it in a forum
Thank you reanimated838uk, that was very informative. Sorry for you're having to explain about the A4AF setting. I could swear I've read through the "Common questions and their answers" FAQ section several times, but somehow I managed to miss the A3AF explanation. Neither my eyesight nor memory is as good as it once was, so maybe that has something to do with it. I'll try the A4AF setting on the file I was trying to download. Thank you.
One part of your previous reply still isn't quite clear to me however. You said: "'last seen complete' is by you. If a user with all parts appears in the list, eMule stores when it was completed." I take it then that you mean that the 'last seen complete' status refers not to when the file was last downloaded by someone (anyone) in totality, but when my particular eMule client found another client or server who has all parts (sources) to a file (even though I may not have downloaded them yet). Right?
One part of your previous reply still isn't quite clear to me however. You said: "'last seen complete' is by you. If a user with all parts appears in the list, eMule stores when it was completed." I take it then that you mean that the 'last seen complete' status refers not to when the file was last downloaded by someone (anyone) in totality, but when my particular eMule client found another client or server who has all parts (sources) to a file (even though I may not have downloaded them yet). Right?
Right, but only another client with all the chucks of the file you're trying to download.
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